Talk:Wikinews interviews Frugalware Linux founder

This article was nominated for deletion on April 1, 2006, and the result was to keep the article. The archived version of the deletion debate can be found here.

Actually, it can't. Can somebody fix this?
--67-21-48-122 16:29, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Fixed. irid:t 19:54, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

OR

I edited the article to fit the interview. There is a source, but someone other than me should add the info related to it as I know nothing about linux and unfortunately have no clue what they are talking about :) Jason Safoutin 13:54, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

I forgot what OR means, other than operating room.

It means original reporting.

Critics of this article say it sounds too much like an advert due to the fast and loose vague language:

1. Attribution - Who's answers are those? I know it says "one of the chief developers of Frugalware Linux," but a name would make it more credible in addition to the title. Is it Miklós Vajna, the founder of Frugalware? An interview from him would be more impressive.
2. Anniversary - When was it released, exactly? I know it says "The official release of the latest edition is only a few days old," but an anniversary date would be more credible.
3. Explainations - Instead of explaining what a Live CD is, post a Wikipedia link to it. Same for AMD and [w:Intel|Intel]] processors - link them for more information to a nice summary of what they are in case people don't know. This is Wikinews, informative links are a big deal here - and your story has none currently.
4. Logo - Does it have a logo you can upload and post with the story?
5. Charts - Any tables you could create with a version history or information about how many are using versus time and compared to how many are dual or multibooting?
6. Summary - a paragraph or so near the end that's not part of the interview, but summarizes things not mentioned will make you look like you did your homework.

Put some more work into this and I'll try to help this story, otherwise I believe it has a chance of being deleted. Karen 21:19, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

I defend this article, as it stands after improvement, on the deletion requests page. Restored the brief description of a live CD. The Wikipedia reference is very informative, but an explanation of the term is justified here.

—67-21-48-122 15:32, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Good work! I did not vote to delete it knowing only a few changes needed to make it publishable. Thanks for the story! Karen 19:45, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Cleanup

As per WN:NOT:

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1. Wikinews articles are not press releases. There are a variety of press release aggregators online who provide this service; check the Reference desk (or try News sources on wikipedia) for links to some of them. Wikinews articles address the 5 Ws and H where possible, and attempt to present newsworthy articles which are balanced and have multiple sources, which press releases by definition do not.

I post this because I see this article in no way to be notable: a new version release of a deriative of Linux is simply not newsworthy. Updates may be worthy of a blog, but I do not find them newsworthy in the sense for our organization. Additionally, where there should be an objective article, there is a transcript of an interview. Based on these arguments, I am withholding publishing of this article. I'm sorry we only made it to one article today, but there must be some quality control on this site. --MrMiscellanious (talk) – 00:58, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

1. It's not a press release.
2. Have you ever interviewed the founder of an OS?
3. Do you use linux?
4. Are you aware that Mac OSX can run under Linux and that a LOT of people aren't aware of it?

I could care less if you work on scrapping the story, Google has it cached, and I've got it blogged. For precisely this type of argument. Also, the Frugalware people have made copies. Its this type of censorship that is Unconscionable in any news or journalistic endeavor.

READ THE TEXT BEFORE JUDGING IT.

Chris Bradley 09:51, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

• I've read it, I'm a Linux user, and that statement alone is worthy enough to call it a press release. Keep the tag up, you have not addressed any of my concerns. "Censorship" is a stretch for an argument - this simply is not newsworthy. Please do not remove my tag again. --MrMiscellanious (talk) – 10:56, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

I reproduce here my comment from the Deletion requests discussion:

"Surely this article never needed charity to deserve to escape being called "spam." (Remember the essence of Spam and spam: you find them everywhere.) Apparently several of the original objections no longer apply. I have changed the headline to make it satisfy guidelines and no longer seem promotional ("Frugalware Linux Pushes Forward"). (I am not the article's originator and have no connection with nor prior knowledge of Frugalware.) As it has been improved, it is still imperfect but contains interesting news. Similar interviews related to other Linux distributions could only be welcome.

—67.21.48.122 14:36, 3 April 2006 (UTC)"

--67-21 12:39, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

What are the specific objections, so this interview can be re-worked and published again? Karen 05:08, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

No specific objections after a reasonable time passed (07:26, 13 April 2006 (UTC)), I'll remove the tag and make comments concerning these quotes:

• I've read it, I'm a Linux user, and that statement alone is worthy enough to call it a press release. - The "this is a press release" argument failed.
• I see this article in no way to be notable: a new version release of a deriative (sic) of Linux is simply not newsworthy. - Yet a story about Apple making a program for Mac OS X just to boot an OS is? That inconsistency lends doubt to the "simply not newsworthy" argument.
• "Censorship" is a stretch for an argument - this simply is not newsworthy. - I simply wonder why only one person has voiced this "simply is not newsworthy" mantra here in this discussion.
• Keep the tag up, you have not addressed any of my concerns. and Please do not remove my tag again. - seem like threats and bullying when stated seemingly without valid reasons. I thought awhile on this, but I just don't see the valid reasons.
• Have you ever interviewed the founder of an OS? - Isn't this a distribution, not a whole new operating system? Let's not exaggerate a baited question.

Karen 07:26, 13 April 2006 (UTC)