Talk:No hotel previously on site of proposed Buffalo, N.Y. hotel location

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Hotel ImageEdit

An e-mail was sent to me from the source of the image requesting that the image be "used with permission." After research with people from the Commons, we could not determine where the image was published thus not allowing for it to be Public domain. The image was changed to link to Wikinews for that reason. If you would like to see the e-mails from the source, please contact me through my e-mail address on my user page. Jason Safoutin 21:28, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

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Ok this is just a DRAFT. It is not a final piece. But since most of what I typed was all at the Buffalo historical Society, I could not get most of it home. For one, the maps I saw from 1894 were the size of a dining room table, so i could not get copies. I did get one map highlighting the hotels in the area during the Pan Am exposition. Also got a picture of the statler. Jason Safoutin 00:05, 4 March 2006 (UTC) :Also, I know there is POV in here and such but I typoed it fast so I could not forget :)Jason Safoutin 00:06, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

Ok...any reference to a map not linked in the article can be found ON LOCATION at the Buffalo and Erie County Historical Society. I was NOT allowed to take photos and the maps were the size of a small dining room table and no information that cannot be copied can be removed from the facility. The only map I got is pictured in the article. I snapped a picture of it from the copy I have. not a great one but its as good as I could get. The Statler Hotel image is the 2nd of only one other known image, and thats the source. At this moment, the Historical Society does NOT have a copy of this image and has only one image which i had previously in the article: [1]. As far as I know, that image (Statler.jpg) is the only image at the society and the only other known image of the hotel. Most of the other information is sources. The information on the amount of rooms and the claim of largest constructed ar from a phamphlit copy I have. As Soon as I take a picture of it I will upload it. Jason Safoutin 15:15, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
Reference to the Hotel John C Hill can also be found in a large book from 1900 or 1901-02. There is only a name and the hotel name. Nothing more nothing less. So far, I have not been able to track any other records of that name. But the house is still at 1089 Elmwood and is the Atwater House. No known connection between the 2 men as of yet. No mention in ANY documents of a John C. Hill in relation to the atwater house other than he had a hotel in that house at 1089 Elmwood in 1900-01 or 1902. Will get a copy of that reference on Monday if I can. Jason Safoutin 15:20, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

Well done!Edit

Very well done and complete article. (ack, I never remember to sign) ironiridis 18:53, 4 March 2006 (UTC)


Context for ArticleEdit

Good job on the reporting. It would be interesting to readers to have a sentence or two of background context on this issue, for example whether this was done to satisfy your own interest, at the request of the historical society or because it had zoning or ownership implications for current land use. Currently, a development project overlapping the site of the historical hotel is mentioned but is not tied to the rest of the article (unless I missed it). In short, more 'why' in the who/what/when/where/why would be helpful and maybe some way of indicating that the news is 'original research' (for example something like a 'Wikinews Scoop' tag). Antonrojo 18:39, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

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