Talk:Israeli army kills three Egyptians in border incident

This article has been submitted for review by the Wikinews community. The review period is currently a minimum of 8 hours for regular articles and 4 hours for urgent stories. An article needs to find consensus - no objections - in the following categories in order to be accepted for publication. If the review period elapses without comments, the article may be published. See also Wikinews:Article stages#Review for information on what constitutes a valid objection.

Please comment on any of the following issues:

• Neutrality: All factual claims need to be attributed or sourced. On-topic information which is relevant to the article should be added. Off-topic information should NOT be added to "balance out" an article.
• Accuracy: All facts should be verifiable. Factual claims which are attributed to a person or group, but considered false by another person or group can remain in the article as long as the controversy is accurately represented.
• Legality: Does the article violate any laws of the state of Florida in the United States? Specifically, does it violate other people's copyright, in text or images? Please make sure that no images have been directly copied from a non-free source without permission, and that any brief text quoted from a non-free source is attributed accurately. Use Google News and Google Search and pick individual phrases from the article to verify this.
• Writing: Is it well-written and understandable?
• Policies: Does the article comply with Wikinews:Content guide and Wikinews:Style guide?
• Comprehensiveness: Relevant information on the topic should be included, while keeping in mind timeliness. Given that an almost infinite amount can be said about any topic, objections in this category carry less weight than those in other categories.

Comments

Looks okay for publishing - TalkHard 10:23, 18 Nov 2004 (UTC)

The content looks OK, but the headline needs to change. Who or what is Israel? Israeli army, Israli tank etc.--Eloquence 10:37, 18 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Headline needs to change, and preferably the first line also. Ambi 12:39, 18 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Neutrality Issue

The title (Israeli army kills three Egyptians in border incident) is better now, but I think it is not good yet (potencial Not Neutral Point of View problem). It seems it was an accident (however I am not saying we must change incident to accident in title):

• An Israeli tank apparently mistook Egyptian troops for Palestinian fighters.
• Foreign ministry spokesman Mark Regev has apologized for the inicident

We are not sure whether Israel wanted have killed them of intention or not.

Second: Do Egyptian soldiers reacted? Or it was an execution?

I think 'border incident' is neutral language which attributes blame to no one. On Egyptian soldiers reacting, there is nothing in there about Egyption actions, and the idea that Israelis killed them is being reported by Israeli officials, so I think that is far more supportable than Israel claiming Egypt attacked them or Egypt claiming Israel attacked them. Seems like an OK balance between timeliness and comprehensiveness to me, as the information just wasn't out there when I wrote it. --119 14:47, 18 Nov 2004 (UTC)

We can't say ourselves it was an accident, but we can't say ourselves Israel had executed them. We must be neutral, the more we can.

Well based on what I've seen I think it's very supportable to say it appears to be unintentional, but not verified, so "apparently" is in there. --119 14:47, 18 Nov 2004 (UTC)

If you find a better title at least I will approve the article.

--carlosar Nov 18 14:13:08 UTC 2004

The article is good. I don't like the title very much, but I think it is acceptable.--carlosar Nov 18 17:41:58 UTC 2004