Talk:Iran to abandon Nuclear Non Proliferation (NPT) if threatened to cut down on nuclear activities

Hi, just saw this article is missing and decided to create it... didn't know I couldn't use my WP account here so I wasn't logged in Genjix 13:38, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

You need some {{sources}} for it, in a == Sources == section at the bottom. There's a bit of javascript under the edit window to insert the template. --Brian McNeil / ^talk 13:45, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, but i couldn't see any easy way to rescue the following sentence, so here it is for anyone who wants to try to work on it:

Coming at a time when relations between the West and Iran have diplomatically stopped, it will reinforce notions in western nations that Iran is pursuing a program of nuclear weapon development.

• The first half of the sentence is totally wrong. There is diplomatic tension, but claiming that relations have totally stopped is wrong: AFAIK ambassadors have not been respectively withdrawn from the countries involved.
• Next problem: the West is a bit vague, better to be more precise.
• Speculating about future public opinion (or government opinion) is not factual information (unless it's stated by some external expert and quoted as a prediction/speculation/whatever).

Boud 14:38, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

Not quite what I meant... I've found a source on the BBC. I'll reformat the ones that should use the {{wikinews}} template and add it. --Brian McNeil / ^talk 15:13, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

Hmmm, it might be speculative opinion, but iirc UK foreign secretary Jack Straw was quoted as saying a few months back in The Independent that military action was "inconcievable and incomprehensible". Just a few days ago Tony Blair said he was not ruling out military action against Iran. Also, although newspapers may be sensationalist, one of the headlines in The Guardian a few days back was that diplomatic relations have hit a dead end, and are no longer progressing (at least between UK and Iran), which was their reason for reporting Iran to the UNSC.

Although this may be opinion, that was my reason behind that statement. Genjix 19:13, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

Adding More Opinion

ok, added some more text on the subject. Just wanted to know, what do you think about saying something like

"military action is not at this time viable since Iran is considerably larger than Iraq with a much larger population, and with US and COTW forces already stretched thin in Iraq and Afghanistahn..."

That doesn't sound like opinion does it? How about adding as well

"... stretched thin in Iraq and Afghanistahn, reporting Iran to the UNSC is unlikely to succeed in the short term."

Is there any other way to rephrase this part without making it sound like a subjective guess? Genjix 19:33, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

Sources

Okay, my personal preference would not have been to do the {{wikinews}} bits first. That's as sourcing everything in the article from reputable sources - or original reporting, but I doubt that applies here - is needed. So, if there's something in the story that isn't provided in one of the prior stories, or the BBC story, then you need to find a source for it. Particularly quotes. --Brian McNeil / ^talk 15:30, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

For the Ahmad quotes I got my father to tell me down the telephone what was said... That said, looking at other sources it doesn't seem too far off. Genjix 19:09, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

ahmedinejad quote, headline

i suggest the full quote below, (source: bbc article) be used to start the second paragraph.

"Until now the Islamic Republic has pursued its nuclear effort within the context of the International Atomic Energy Agency and the Non-Proliferation Treaty," he said.

"However, if we see that despite our respect for these regulations you want to violate the rights of the Iranian people, you should understand the Iranian nation will revise its policies," he warned.

i think this article's headline says a lot more than what actually happened, which was, the president talking of a "revision" in its policies. to extrapolate that to mean "abandoning the npt" is way too speculative and pov for wikinews to use. the aljazeera article, which does talk about "quiting npt" is about Larijani's statements, not ahmedinejad's. 59.92.159.171 (Doldrums) 04:56, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

reuters appears to translate this differently in [1]. Doldrums 05:00, 12 February 2006 (UTC)