Talk:India: Jammu and Kashmir government orders private tuitions to shut down for 90 days

Latest comment: 5 years ago by Pi zero in topic Typo in headline?

Clarification edit

"private coaching institutions"? Are we talking about academic coaching or athletic coaching? --Pi zero (talk) 21:47, 25 April 2018 (UTC)Reply

Typo in headline? edit

--Pi zero (talk) 22:06, 25 April 2018 (UTC)Reply

I echo that sentiment, but with the current title in mind. Should "tutions" be "institutions"? Is it a form of short-hand slang? --SVTCobra 00:16, 26 April 2018 (UTC)Reply
No, it means a paid private classes(a class taken by a tutor).
103.254.128.130 (talk) 03:22, 26 April 2018 (UTC)Reply
Eh, is it a colloquialism or slang? It does not appear in dictionaries. --SVTCobra 11:41, 26 April 2018 (UTC)Reply
I believe it is the plural of "tuition" with two "i"'s, but the sentence would makes more sense with the singular i.e. tuition. The headline also needs to be shorter e.g. India: Jammu and Kashmir orders private tuition shutdown for 90 days, perhaps? Green Giant (talk) 11:59, 26 April 2018 (UTC)Reply
The review was tight, with publication six minutes and four seconds before midnight UTC, which would make it less likely for me to notice this issue and consider addressing it during final sanity check (though one never knows; stuff can slip past anyway). Even if the use of "tuitions" is allowed, I agree it might have been made shorter.

Once the question of the word "tuitions" was raised, for a moment I wasn't sure it even made sense, because I'm accustomed to encountering the word "tuition" only in the sense of payment; however, if one takes it in the sense of an act of tutelage, the usage in the headline is sensible (though the plural is unusual in my experience). The word is used this way once in the body of the article, too, and imho flows smoothly there. --Pi zero (talk) 12:27, 26 April 2018 (UTC)Reply

When you say dictionaries, there should be more than one, K? “Government” should not be dropped because on Saturday, Education Minister said he would order tuitions to shut down, but on the next day, the government did. There is the difference and one must mention who exactly ordered it.
103.254.128.130 (talk) 13:58, 26 April 2018 (UTC)Reply
as Green Giant already pointed out, I was missing a letter in my dictionary search. BTW, government can be dropped from headlines. We do it all the time. And isn't the Education Minister part of the government anyway? --SVTCobra 14:11, 26 April 2018 (UTC)Reply

One person (who can order) issuing a ban vs the government reaching a conclusion are two different things. Do we say Trump [orders] Travel Ban or US [orders] travel ban? Or Hawaii judiciary blocks travel ban vs Havaiian judge blocks travel ban.
103.254.128.130 (talk) 14:30, 26 April 2018 (UTC)Reply

I know you love when I bring up examples from your own archive, so Belgium stops telegram services. --SVTCobra 14:34, 26 April 2018 (UTC)Reply
I disagree with the IP (I assume it is Acagastya), because such an announcement by an education minister is an announcement by a government by default. It isn't the minister making a personal announcement. Equally, the use of "Jammu and Kashmir orders..." implicitly says the state government has made the order because the only others that could order a state-wide ban are the courts or the state legislature, and perhaps the military or the police (in an emergency situation). For example, India discontinues ₹500, ₹1000 denominations; releases ₹2000 and new ₹500 bills implies it is the government taking an action even though it was announced by Prime Minister Narendra Modi. Grammatically it would have been correct to include the Indian PM's name in the headline e.g. "Narendra Modi discontinues...", or "Indian government discontinues...", but it is also grammatically correct to have just "India discontinues...". Green Giant (talk) 09:45, 27 April 2018 (UTC)Reply
The article as submitted, iirc, said the minister brought up the idea of the suspension the day before. However, I was unable to verify that; the minister said some things the day before, but I wasn't able to find that amongst them. That would seem to further attenuate the distinction between the minister saying it and the government saying it. --Pi zero (talk) 11:54, 27 April 2018 (UTC)Reply

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