Talk:Exclusive: David Anderson talks about the Stardust@home project
E-mails
editWhere can I sub page or whatever the e-mails I have verifying the questions and quotes? Jason Safoutin 20:16, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
- You can easily create (articlename)/sub-page pages, but if they are emails make sure you have permission to make them publically accessible. --Brian McNeil / talk 20:26, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
- The e-mails are from me personally, my e-mail address...and the 1 I want to post or whatnot is the one with the Q and A from david supporting the articles quotes and questions etc. The other one, which I hopefully will get today, will be for a new article saying nasa's delay in the briefing is fgood and not bad...hopefully beat the outlets to that. Jason Safoutin 20:29, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
Major Setback
editNASA Has delayed a press conference on Stardust. I do not know how to react in terms of publishing this article. I am ready to do so, but the question is, will it be appropriate? Not sure if this project is actually affected though. Jason Safoutin 03:39, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
- Ok. I am going to publisj...with a brief...because I am waiting on more info and want to add it later. I think in light of the postponed conference, a contributer reccomended that I publish to annoy them and reassure others the project is still on. But lets hope the info I get from David is good news too. Jason Safoutin 15:25, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
- Good job, Jason! This has become a very nice article. AFAIK, the delay is a "good sign": They have sooo much stuff to work and report on, they needed more time! Awolf002 19:33, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
- Added another question and Quote. I am waiting on another of the prtoject directors to maiul me back on the delay of NASA's conference. He will give me more details as to whether or not the actual project itself is delayed. Jason Safoutin 19:57, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
- Good job, Jason! This has become a very nice article. AFAIK, the delay is a "good sign": They have sooo much stuff to work and report on, they needed more time! Awolf002 19:33, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
Edits
editPlease post all advice for any edits here. Please do not change this article as it is an exclusive. All coments should be posted on this page. Jason Safoutin 03:01, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
- There are a few typos, misplaced commas and general copyediting things. Also, I'd move Related Wikinews down a tiny bit so it doesn't start on the right and cross over to the left. Didn't know if you wanted to do all copyediting things yourself as well, so I'm just pointing them out here. --LoganCale 19:07, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
- Copy edits are ok I do not mind correction for grammar and or typos. But any major info to be added I would like to be posted here befreo doing so. I am waiting on some pictures from Berkeley right now. I will not likely get them until late monday afternoon (eastern time). Once I get those and a bit more info from David I will be adding it in. Jason Safoutin 03:23, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
- Also, if anyone has some extra info on this or knows anyone who can help out...(aka connections to berkeley etc) that would be great. Jason Safoutin 03:24, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
- Copy edits are ok I do not mind correction for grammar and or typos. But any major info to be added I would like to be posted here befreo doing so. I am waiting on some pictures from Berkeley right now. I will not likely get them until late monday afternoon (eastern time). Once I get those and a bit more info from David I will be adding it in. Jason Safoutin 03:23, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
Article
editI doubt we can call this "exclusive" if the guy so freely answers questions. :-) Good idea though, but you need to work up an introduction and have a related news section for any other stories we've done on Stardust. Perhaps some technical details on how the samples were captured (all I know is the use of Aerogel), and work in something about other distributed computing projects so you're using the answers as quotes rather than as the main body of the article. Also ask if you can have permission to put the email exchange on a sub-page from this one for others to refer to. --Brian McNeil / talk 15:59, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
- Also, you should probably move all personal remarks here to the talk page and file them under "Original reporting notes". But nice job. --Deprifry|+T+ 16:04, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
- For some of the personal remarks you need to start doing 3rd person. Eg, "Wikinews reporter, Jason Safoutin, emailed David Anderson for further information on the planned Stardust@Home project. David, the creator of the famous SETI@Home project, and one of the developers of the Virtual Microscope which will be used in Stardust@Home was delighted to answer our questions." --Brian McNeil / talk 16:10, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
- Well by exclusive I mean exclusive to the site. As to the thrid person, I thought about that but was not sure if it was acceptable on here. I worte several other articles on Stardust on here actually. Well write is strong...more like started. I don't think I have time to work to further on this today, but If you guys can add more or what note for me feel free to. I still have the e-mail too and I am not sure on how to "sub-page" it asyou guys put it. Let me know Jason Safoutin 17:30, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
- For some of the personal remarks you need to start doing 3rd person. Eg, "Wikinews reporter, Jason Safoutin, emailed David Anderson for further information on the planned Stardust@Home project. David, the creator of the famous SETI@Home project, and one of the developers of the Virtual Microscope which will be used in Stardust@Home was delighted to answer our questions." --Brian McNeil / talk 16:10, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
Pictures
editI plan to use pictures but I am waiting on a response from David to see if he has any "exclusive" pictures. I just e-mailed him today, so probably will not get a response until tomorrow. Although it is only just after 1pm pacific there. And he does check his mail everyday. Jason Safoutin 21:05, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
- I hope you've pointed him to the "work in progress" here, seeing the project getting reported on should make him interested and more likely to give good quotes. --Brian McNeil / talk 21:27, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
- very good idea. Jason Safoutin 21:29, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
- Am I allowed to Wikinews artilces on the Wikipedia regarding stardust?? Jason Safoutin 21:36, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
- There are various templates for linking between the wikis. You could use {{wikipediapar|Stardust@home}}, or you could look at what's going on for the Interview of the month with the EFF. I had to create a template on Wikipedia to add the little link to the upcoming interview, and had expected to have to create one afterwards to link to our article on the interview. You should also look into who the contributors to the WP article are, they may be able to assist on our article. What you have here is a case where we can do original reporting that can feed through to Wikipedia, the guys writing over there can't interview David for the encyclopedia article, but they could do an IRC interview, write it up here, and then use that as a source. --Brian McNeil / talk 21:55, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
- I messaged someone that had an english user page on the WP. I don't know if he will be of help but hopefully he will. The main contributer to the stardust@home WP is unfortunately in japanese or chinese and cannot read it. Jason Safoutin 22:08, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
- Hi, I will try to help with the later section of this article, clarifying some details about the spacecraft, the collector, and the dust collected. Hope you'll like it... Awolf002 23:19, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
- Thank you for a very quick reply. I am happy with your contributions. Should you come up with anything new let me know. If you have anymore resources I could use let me know. Thanks guys. Keep the advice coming. Jason Safoutin 23:53, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
- There are various templates for linking between the wikis. You could use {{wikipediapar|Stardust@home}}, or you could look at what's going on for the Interview of the month with the EFF. I had to create a template on Wikipedia to add the little link to the upcoming interview, and had expected to have to create one afterwards to link to our article on the interview. You should also look into who the contributors to the WP article are, they may be able to assist on our article. What you have here is a case where we can do original reporting that can feed through to Wikipedia, the guys writing over there can't interview David for the encyclopedia article, but they could do an IRC interview, write it up here, and then use that as a source. --Brian McNeil / talk 21:55, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
- Am I allowed to Wikinews artilces on the Wikipedia regarding stardust?? Jason Safoutin 21:36, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
- very good idea. Jason Safoutin 21:29, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
- When I do remove the develop tag, will the wikipediapars organize themselves? Just wondering. Jason Safoutin 01:23, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
- I added the logo...look ok? Jason Safoutin 03:51, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
Great Job, Jason
editLooks ready to me; I'll remove the develop tag as it's better for someone other than the primary contributor to do it. Good work! Neutralizer 03:46, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
- No Its in development because its not finished. I stated that at the top. Thank you, but development remains. I am waitng on further statements. Jason Safoutin 03:47, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
- ???Don't you inquire just above "When I do remove the develop tag"?? I thought you were done??? Neutralizer 03:49, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
- Sorry, Jason, I thought I was helping, would you like it to go back to "develop"? Neutralizer 03:51, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
- I already took care of that. You should read the whole talk page before you remove tags. Jason Safoutin 03:52, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
- Ok; Aren't you concerned there have been no edits for the past 24 hours? Could you please explain a bit more as to what exactly you want to wait for? and how long? Neutralizer 03:55, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
- I already took care of that. You should read the whole talk page before you remove tags. Jason Safoutin 03:52, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
- Sorry, Jason, I thought I was helping, would you like it to go back to "develop"? Neutralizer 03:51, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
- ???Don't you inquire just above "When I do remove the develop tag"?? I thought you were done??? Neutralizer 03:49, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
- I am waiting on more statements from david and the media dept and the JPL and Johnson space center. I am NOT concerned. This was expected as no one is expected to reply to any of the calls or e-mails until late monday afternoon as I stated above. I have spoken to 2 (JPL,JSC) and Divid and since they only responded to me on friday, It is only logical that they would wait til monday. Jason Safoutin 03:59, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
- Now I have to go to work. please do not remove tags unless you are sure the srticle is done, and or not under request for comment. Since this is exclusive it is work in progress. Jason Safoutin 04:01, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
- Ok,Jason, will do; Once again, I think this is good reporting; congrats. Neutralizer 05:41, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
- Now I have to go to work. please do not remove tags unless you are sure the srticle is done, and or not under request for comment. Since this is exclusive it is work in progress. Jason Safoutin 04:01, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
Rearrangement
editI did a bit of rearranging, firstly to move the wikipediapars so they looked better, then I decided the background needed to go up front for two reasons. First is looked like it was from Mr Anderson, second giving the background before the information should make sure people know enough to follow the interview properly.
This is, I think, a nice piece of work that should probably be published now and put as 3rd lead. --Brian McNeil / talk 17:46, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
- I want to wait an hour or more to see if I get any replies from JPL and David. if not We can publish. Its still early over there. Also Could you fix the big white space in the article? Jason Safoutin 17:48, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
I don't like how this looks with the Stardust@home logo on the left and one dangling partial line underneath it. It has a better balance on the right, I think. --LoganCale 21:03, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
- How does it look now? Jason Safoutin 21:21, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
- Much better. It'd be near perfect if you bump the beginning of the interview (the first question and on) down two lines, it'll start underneath the photo and all be justified left rather than starting to the right of the photo and then wrapping down to the left after a few lines. --LoganCale 22:38, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
- How does it look now? Jason Safoutin 21:21, 23 January 2006 (UTC)