Talk:Bush may give special news conference about Iran
I've checked all the "usual suspects" and none of them have anything about this. --Jpbrenna 23:29, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- The article isn't sourced at all and I don't think it should be included on the main page as a "published" story... Using this standard and the "Unverified Sources" box, one could submit a story about almost anything. I can see a headline now: NASA Receives Communique' from UFO Requesting Cheese (no sources)... --Chiacomo 23:51, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Haha, I see your point. However, the likelihood that Bush will give a speech on Iran before the elections there on Friday, or immediately afterward, is probably much greater than NASA receiving an extraterrestial request for cheese in the same time frame. If the decision had been mine, I would not have published this without more information on the source of the rumor. Since, however, someone already made the decision to publish, I went ahead and updated it with a plausible speculation on how it might go down. Bush has already made one unexpected speech this week, so it's not unreasonable to expect another. --Jpbrenna 23:58, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- The story doesnt just claim that it might go down, but that an anonymous source from within the White House has leaked the info. The IP-trace of the user who submitted the claim is coming from the Philadelphia area, a slightly plausible location for access to an anonymous source. But I would be very concerned about Wikinews's reputation if this in fact just some yahoo trying to trump up a rumor. We should have an official policy on this type of thing for the sake of our reputations. Linkspro 6:06, 16 June 2005 (UTC)
- Haha, I see your point. However, the likelihood that Bush will give a speech on Iran before the elections there on Friday, or immediately afterward, is probably much greater than NASA receiving an extraterrestial request for cheese in the same time frame. If the decision had been mine, I would not have published this without more information on the source of the rumor. Since, however, someone already made the decision to publish, I went ahead and updated it with a plausible speculation on how it might go down. Bush has already made one unexpected speech this week, so it's not unreasonable to expect another. --Jpbrenna 23:58, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
We do. No sources=no publish. Dan100 (Talk) 18:03, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- In talking with NGerda this would apparently fall under OP, as the submitter claims to have a source in the White House. If true, this will be a scooop for WN. If untrue, I suppose we'll have learned a valuable lesson -- better now than later. --Chiacomo 21:18, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
No, this falls far short of our standards. Original reporting must be accompanied with full notes here on the Talk page, or we will just become a playground for wind-up merchants. Dan100 (Talk) 22:14, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I agree with Dan100. This article should really just be listed as a developing story since there is really no method of ensuring that this article is correct. We can certainly keep it up so that, if it's true, Wikinews gets some good credit - but it should be listed as developing in order to show that nobody is guaranteeing the article is valid. Cllewr 20:44, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Please note the title of the article: Bush may give special news conference about Iran NGerda 20:46, Jun 18, 2005 (UTC)
- You're right; the title does imply that the information may be incorrect. But I feel like that there should also be a more explicit warning not to necessarily trust the article (I put one up, but then it disappeared for some reason). We should also be careful that, in the future, Wikinews does not turn into an outlet for rumors. Cllewr 20:55, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- You mean {{Credibility}}?
- Yes - I wrote that disclaimer and then NGerda turned it into a tag. We may as well let this article go by; the main concern is that we don't see a bunch of crazy rumors and {{Credibility}} tags flying around in the future. Wikinews is not a rumor website; it's supposed to give known facts on generally accepted news. Cllewr 02:34, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Agreed. NGerda 02:36, Jun 20, 2005 (UTC)
- Yes - I wrote that disclaimer and then NGerda turned it into a tag. We may as well let this article go by; the main concern is that we don't see a bunch of crazy rumors and {{Credibility}} tags flying around in the future. Wikinews is not a rumor website; it's supposed to give known facts on generally accepted news. Cllewr 02:34, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Press Release edit
The White House hasn't announced a speech yet, or hinted at one, but they did issue this [1] --Jpbrenna 19:47, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Maybe Iraq, not Iran? edit
Perhaps the source was confused about this: ...Bush scheduled a major address for June 28, the one-year anniversary of the transfer of sovereignty from the U.S.-led coalition to Iraqis. Four days before that, he will meet at the White House with Iraqi Prime Minister Ibrahim al-Jaafari, who heads the transitional government chosen after January elections... Source:Yahoo News --Jpbrenna 22:43, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)