Comments:Testimony by John Travolta that son was autistic raises Scientology questions
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What is with
editWhat is with Scientology and psychiatrists?--KDP3 (talk) 13:00, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
- More info at Citizens Commission On Human Rights, Scientology and psychiatry, Alaska Mental Health Enabling Act, Believe What You Like, and Elli Perkins. Cirt (talk) 15:42, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
-+++- A comment by Kewal To try and boil down such a complex topic into a simple statement can often lead to misunderstandings. It might be of interest to readers to know a little bit about Scientology. While I am not a Scientologist, I am familiar with one of their practices. Two friends and I visited the Scientology center in New York City approximately thirteen years ago. One of my friends was very unhappy in life, and I pursued the Scientology path with her. A process she was guided through regressed her back to a car accident she was involved in, several years previous to that point in time. Without going into complete details, I feel it is accurate to summarize a basic belief of Scientology as follows. Most, if not all of our chronic suffering in life comes from echoes of past unpleasant experiences that were not properly processed by the rational, logical brain. In times of trauma, a part of the brain sometimes referred to as the "reptilian brain" continues to record events without the assistance of our more advanced faculties. In such cases, many things experienced by the senses can be categorized as "painful" or "unpleasant" by the mere fact that the pain is being experienced in their presence. Scientology calls these recorded and mislabeled events "engrams", if my memory serves me. One goal of a practitioner of Scientology is to become "clear" of all engrams. At least one way of clearing these engrams is to go back in one's mind, and re-experience the event while being guided in a relaxed or perhaps hypnotic state. Each time a person reviews the trauma, describing it in first person detail, the "charge" of the event is lessened. Eventually, a person can recall the entire event while in this quasi-hypnotic state without emotion. At that point, that particular charge is cleared. If such assistance can help someone to overcome "issues" in life, without imbibing a chemical, it would seem the best path to take. It seems to me that this sort of clearing of engrams is not so different from many psychological related work that is undertaken by "professionals", some of whom also use drugs to assist in the therapy. The largest danger that I see is that many "professionals" are merely prescribing drugs without such mental therapy. I have personal experience in seeing this first hand as well. --- Kewal -+++- End of Comment by Kewal
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- Where have we seen this phrasing before similar to the third sentence in the above paragraph? Oh yes. [1], [2], [3], [4], [5] , [6], [7], [8], [9], [10] ... I have heard from former members of Scientology's intelligence agency, their "Office of Special Affairs" (OSA), that this is a common tactic they use on the internet, spamming comments, etc. Cirt (talk) 03:10, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
- Can't most internet people say that they are "familiar with [...] their [Scientology's] practices". The other part reminds me of the "Okay, I am the Messiah" scene from Life of Brian. Only a Scientologist would deny being a Scientologist.--66.110.233.67 (talk) 08:43, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
-+++- Kewals retort...
(I am totally new to WikiNews) Regarding comments above. I only added that I wasn't a Scientologist so as not to offend any Scientologists in the case that I misrepresented something about their practices. And, I wanted to make certain anyone reading it realized that is was in no way "official". And as long as me "denying" something will "implicate me in the same", let me add that I have never heard of the Office of Special Affairs, and I am not paid monthly by them to spam comments regarding my belief that everyone deserves to have their say when it comes to "the unseen". The reality is that if someone were concerned about a person's beliefs... I might be considered something much worse than a Scientologist. I am a Rosicrucian. ;) - Kewal
The efficacy of psychiatry in the treatment of autism is questionable
editThe use of anti-convulsants as prescribed for seizures by licensed physicians the world over, is very well estabished. 75.27.225.185 (talk) 03:53, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
Autism
editThe Citizens Commission On Human Rights (CCHR), a human rights group founded by the Church of Scientology in 1969, submitted a comment on autism to a bill before the United States Senate in 2008. The bill was SB 1563: Pervasive developmental disorders. The comment by CCHR was submitted under the heading: "Arguments in opposition", and stated "The Citizens Commission on Human Rights believes that there is no known medical treatment for autism except off-label drugs."
Okaaaay. So they label the drugs as 'off label'. This is not the same as saying autism doesn't exist. Wiki, pay attention! Report correctly! State the truth!