November 2017Edit
Usage note: never say FIFA World Cup. Specify which sport. Football? Futsal? Beach volleyball?
•–• 16:11, 27 November 2017 (UTC)
- I disagree. The FIFA World Cup is very widely known as an international men’s football event. To quote the ENWP article, it is "the most widely viewed and followed sporting event in the world, exceeding even the Olympic Games." There is no need to specify the sport but we can have redirects to that effect. Alternatively, CAT:Football World Cup would be viable compromise. It is unfortunate that women’s football and futsal do not get the same coverage but we cannot rectify that imbalance. The volleyball world cups would need distinguishing between men’s and women’s events but their international body is FIVB, so there is less relevance to this debate. --Green Giant (talk) 23:02, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
- What that would have enabled is to answer "which sport", and not mentioning it is just plain wrong for writing or preserving history.
117.198.178.142 (talk) 02:17, 16 April 2021 (UTC)- The benefit comes when we are reporting non-football match reports; such as bids for hosting; it answers an important question; so when in future, one would not have to guess "Ah back in 2014 Football was the most popular sport so this must be about that." Let's just specify as one word of detail is going to be helpful and would not have any added negatives.
117.198.178.142 (talk) 02:36, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
- The benefit comes when we are reporting non-football match reports; such as bids for hosting; it answers an important question; so when in future, one would not have to guess "Ah back in 2014 Football was the most popular sport so this must be about that." Let's just specify as one word of detail is going to be helpful and would not have any added negatives.
- What that would have enabled is to answer "which sport", and not mentioning it is just plain wrong for writing or preserving history.
April 2020Edit
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Should Category:FIFA Football World Cup be an internal tracking category, or a general category?
•–• 17:56, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
- I think it should be a general category called CAT:FIFA World Cup or CAT:Football World Cup, and should initially contain the three categories at CAT:FIFA World Cup 2006, CAT:2010 FIFA World Cup, CAT:2018 FIFA World Cup. I think we should also adopt a consistent name scheme for these three categories. --Green Giant (talk) 23:02, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
- I think you are missing the point. Firstly, there are bodies other than FIFA which also conduct football World Cup. The question has been raised for should we have that very specific category FIFA Football World Cup as an internal category, meaning no articles would have that category, and if there is a scandal for any given World Cup, put that in that year's category. However "FIFA Football World Cups to no longer use VAR" might be something this category could have. Calling it a Football World Cup would be as wrong as calling US the country of two parties.
117.198.178.142 (talk) 02:30, 16 April 2021 (UTC)- Which bodies are you thinking of? I agree there are other international football competitions which might call themselves a "football World Cup" but the FIFA men’s one is the only competition that is referred to when most people use the term. The other codes all use specific names e.g. Rugby World Cup, IFAF World Championship (American football), Australian Football International Cup.
- However, I think the best option for this category is to split it into one for FIFA articles and one to hold FIFA World Cup articles. Then for internal purposes, we could have a CAT:Football to group the categories on Football (American), Australian rules football, Canadian football, Football (soccer), Rugby, Wheelchair rugby, and Women's football (soccer). --Green Giant (talk) 03:48, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
- I think you are missing the point. Firstly, there are bodies other than FIFA which also conduct football World Cup. The question has been raised for should we have that very specific category FIFA Football World Cup as an internal category, meaning no articles would have that category, and if there is a scandal for any given World Cup, put that in that year's category. However "FIFA Football World Cups to no longer use VAR" might be something this category could have. Calling it a Football World Cup would be as wrong as calling US the country of two parties.