User talk:Mrmiscellanious/Archive8

Latest comment: 18 years ago by Cartman02au in topic Dispute resolution
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why did you delete

Why did you delete the news article I wrote on the Canadaians being bad samaritans? Kokopoko 05:26, 19 February 2006 (UTC)Reply

Please work toward publishing Full extent of Abu Ghraib detainee abuse revealed

Please make an effort to resolve whatever differences you have with other editors and let's get the above article published. I realize that you have strong feelings on the subject, but this is a newsworthy article and the project suffers when we cannot report news in a timely fashion. Please remember that everyone has a POV and that each person's POV should be respected. Also, let's avoid even the appearance of personal attacks in discussion pages. --Chiacomo (talk) 04:57, 18 February 2006 (UTC)Reply

Disturbing comments about Administrators in general by myself

I noticed that you claimed the above on WN:A. Care to provide some examples? I am pretty sure you are referring to my opposition to your execution of a WN:3RR block, but could be wrong - Cartman02au (Talk)(AU Portal) 07:00, 18 February 2006 (UTC)Reply

blocking of IP's that have the legal thing in texas

Are you sure that thoose IPs are static? Seccond question, How do you determine if an IP is static or Dynamic? Bawolff ☺☻  22:30, 18 February 2006 (UTC)Reply

3RR Blocked

You have been blocked for violation of the 3RR. Please see WN:ALERT for a list of reverts. --Chiacomo (talk) 22:53, 18 February 2006 (UTC)Reply

Peace

 
I, Brian New Zealand hereby ask for peace from now on (i.e. no more edit wars)

Stole your opinions idea

I have decided to steal your idea of having a page where user's opinions and beliefs are stated. I hope you do not mind (which I doubt as you stole it from another LOL) - Cartman02au (Talk)(AU Portal) 07:38, 19 February 2006 (UTC)Reply

beliefs

Shame about you removing your personal beliefs, I thought it was a good idea. Who misused them elsewhere? Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 23:57, 20 February 2006 (UTC)Reply

I am reverting your edit to ADMIN page

If you don't wish to be listed there, request to have your adminship revoked Bawolff ☺☻  05:47, 21 February 2006 (UTC)Reply

Accreditation

Hi there, Amgine suggested that I contact you regarding accreditation images... Frankie Roberto 15:06, 23 February 2006 (UTC)Reply

best wishes

I just wanted to say I feel like you and me are over the hump and can enjoy working together on articles from now on. I am sure it takes effort on your part to put up with some of my antics and I just wanted you to know I appreciate it. all the best,MrM. Neutralizer 18:32, 23 February 2006 (UTC)Reply

Image

How come modifications are not allowed to images? Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 05:59, 25 February 2006 (UTC)Reply

Okay, thanks, I had wondered.. Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 06:03, 25 February 2006 (UTC)Reply

Sorry about all that. I'm a dits. You guys where right. I think you may delete this fair use image because we now have a free one for the article I was going to use it in! Image:EarthquakeThursoQuebec.PNG

Never mind. Thank you Chicamo! --2I5 06:37, 25 February 2006 (UTC)Reply

Review WN:ALERT

DragonFire would like you to review the block on xyr account. Details are on the Alert page. - Amgine | talk en.WN 18:25, 25 February 2006 (UTC)Reply

Losslessly segmented Deprifry-Stranger dialog to continue in separate section

See here. Please let me know if you have any concerns. StrangerInParadise 20:45, 25 February 2006 (UTC)Reply

Problems

I'm seeing you have problems with any official that is in someway affilliated with a U.S. entity. Please explain why you think that their statements are considered factual in specific articles. As I have observed, it is what they find is what we report, and we attriube it back to them - we never take a stand and say it is fact. Please stop tagging articles as POV in this method. It is a violation of site policy, and qualifies as disruption. --MrMiscellanious (talk) – 18:21, 25 February 2006 (UTC)Reply

Hi,MrM. Actually I concur with our NPOV mandate to reign in our natural tendancy to embrace the anglo/american centric point of view and am trying to engage this "ongoing problem". That's really it in a nutshell. I think I am doing a good job of keeping my own pov(which is much more dramatic) completely out of my Wikinews contributions. Neutralizer 21:28, 25 February 2006 (UTC)Reply

Your block of the Food not Bombs activist

I don't have a problem with the block, per se. That guy was obnoxious, and a week will do him good, or at least do us good. I do have a problem with your reasoning: the welcome message left on his talk page is hardly fair warning (as if he would just drop everything and read all the policy pages). If you want to rely on fair warning- and you should- then something stronger than {{hello}} plus BrianMc's ad hoc your experiment worked message should be used by the first responder. Perhaps a {{grafittiwarn}}, or even a {{politicalgrafittiwarn}} should be created, especially if this becomes a common activist tactic. StrangerInParadise 23:14, 27 February 2006 (UTC)Reply

If the user read through the message thoroughly, it should have been quite obvious that what they were doing was wrong. I feel it is an adequate warning to the user. --MrMiscellanious (talk) – 23:27, 27 February 2006 (UTC)Reply

I guess that is the crux of the matter. If we are going to go through the exercise of presuming that initial transgressions are just "editing experiments", it is a huge shift in the other direction (and hardly plausible) to assume that the editor will assimilate and acculturate in one go by following all of the links in the hello message, especially if the only surface comment is, hello, thanks for playing!. Consider instead having a template which addresses the gravity of the matter up front, including why it is not appropriate. It is a far stretch to assume this is as obvious to him as to you and I. StrangerInParadise 00:44, 28 February 2006 (UTC)Reply

I'm sorry we have different views on this, however there is no reason to bring up this conversation, especially when the user is blocked, and was warned. --MrMiscellanious (talk) – 00:55, 28 February 2006 (UTC)Reply

We agree the block is a good thing, regardless. We disagree on your sense here of fair warning. The take-aways on this are,

  • the opportunity to create a new set of templates to address- aggressively- specific problems
  • the need to consider that such political vandalism may become a more generally-used tactic
  • to consider the values that prompt us to regard things like this as editing experiments
  • to reconsider how we communicate to newbies, and what our expectations should be

I'm glad we've had this little chat,

StrangerInParadise 01:11, 28 February 2006 (UTC)Reply

Well, let's see if i have any better luck with 70.60.41.211 (talk · contribs),

StrangerInParadise 15:04, 28 February 2006 (UTC)Reply

Awaiting your Apology; and your promise not to do it again

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I have confirmed that this IP address matches the same region as Neutralizer's from the same ISP. As such, with close proximity of the case, I have strong faith that this is indeed Neutralizer. --MrMiscellanious (talk) – 23:07, 1 March 2006 (UTC) ......


According to the Visual Traceroute utility at http://visualroute.visualware.com/ the IP address 65.1.149.41 is located somewhere in Charlotte, NC. --Brian McNeil / talk 23:19, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

22:58, 1 March 2006 Mrmiscellanious blocked "Neutralizer (contribs)" with an expiry time of 1 day (3RR violation on Saddam_Hussein_admits_to_requesting_trials) 22:58, 1 March 2006 Mrmiscellanious blocked "65.1.149.41 (contribs)" with an expiry time of 1 day (Violation of 3RR; IP address used by Neutralizer)

Awaiting your Apology; and your promise not to do it again Neutralizer 00:13, 2 March 2006 (UTC)Reply

Accredited

I see that I am now accredited. Whats next? How do I get my image/pass? Just wonderin. Jason Safoutin 00:36, 2 March 2006 (UTC)Reply

Dispute resolution

A user is attempting dispute resolution and you are a named party. Please view this text and respond and make your own statement if you wish. You may request mediation on that page if you feel further discussion is fruitless. --Chiacomo (talk) 00:42, 3 March 2006 (UTC)Reply

Dispute resolution

As you may or may not be aware, I have listed myself on Wikinews:Dispute resolution/Users Borofkin, Mrmiscellanious, and others as having minor issues with yourself. I have tried to discuss my issues with you informally and seem to be getting no closer to a resolve. I would like to see us work together to gain a mutually acceptable resolution - Cartman02au (Talk)(AU Portal) 07:09, 4 March 2006 (UTC)Reply

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