Talk:Cairo summit denounces Turkish-Libyan maritime border agreement

Review of revision 4539997 [Passed]

Revision 4539997 of this article has been reviewed by Pi zero (talk · contribs) and has passed its review at 21:43, 11 January 2020 (UTC). Copyright: Passed Newsworthiness: Passed Verifiability: Passed NPOV: Passed Style: Passed Comments by reviewer: The sourcing here presented some difficulties. This article is an acknowledged fork of the earlier article, and it seemed as if some of the sourcing may have gotten left behind, so that in effect, the article it was split off from was a source for this article. This is a major purpose of Related news sections — not so much to list earlier articles the reader may also want to consult (although there's that too, and it applies here) but to list earlier articles that are sources for the current article. I treated the earlier article as a source that was acknowledged but hadn't been directly listed, a situation that sometimes arises though more usually it's a source mentioned on the talk page; it's generally within-bounds for a reviewer to copy into the article proper a citation from the talk page, so I similarly copied in a citation of the earlier article. And I then felt free to treat it as a source during review, which was particularly useful toward the bottom of this article. The sources here for recent events are all primary. Primary sources are good to have, but there are two disadvantages to not also having some secondary sources. Secondary sources can provide additional/wider perspectives (especially if they're far-flung secondary sources), and context that might well be missing from the primaries. And, secondary sources can provide peripheral basic facts that primary sources may omit. I did belatedly find the "hydrocarbon research" thing, in Erdogan's tweet; I wasn't anxious to adopt his wording, though. A side note: for a possible article for Mitsotakis, I found just one more article besides these two: "Greek parliament votes to legalise sex-change without operation" — Wikinews, October 13, 2017 The reviewed revision should automatically have been edited by removing {{Review}} and adding {{Publish}} at the bottom, and the edit sighted; if this did not happen, it may be done manually by a reviewer.

Revision 4539997 of this article has been reviewed by Pi zero (talk · contribs) and has passed its review at 21:43, 11 January 2020 (UTC). Copyright: Passed Newsworthiness: Passed Verifiability: Passed NPOV: Passed Style: Passed Comments by reviewer: The sourcing here presented some difficulties. This article is an acknowledged fork of the earlier article, and it seemed as if some of the sourcing may have gotten left behind, so that in effect, the article it was split off from was a source for this article. This is a major purpose of Related news sections — not so much to list earlier articles the reader may also want to consult (although there's that too, and it applies here) but to list earlier articles that are sources for the current article. I treated the earlier article as a source that was acknowledged but hadn't been directly listed, a situation that sometimes arises though more usually it's a source mentioned on the talk page; it's generally within-bounds for a reviewer to copy into the article proper a citation from the talk page, so I similarly copied in a citation of the earlier article. And I then felt free to treat it as a source during review, which was particularly useful toward the bottom of this article. The sources here for recent events are all primary. Primary sources are good to have, but there are two disadvantages to not also having some secondary sources. Secondary sources can provide additional/wider perspectives (especially if they're far-flung secondary sources), and context that might well be missing from the primaries. And, secondary sources can provide peripheral basic facts that primary sources may omit. I did belatedly find the "hydrocarbon research" thing, in Erdogan's tweet; I wasn't anxious to adopt his wording, though. A side note: for a possible article for Mitsotakis, I found just one more article besides these two: "Greek parliament votes to legalise sex-change without operation" — Wikinews, October 13, 2017 The reviewed revision should automatically have been edited by removing {{Review}} and adding {{Publish}} at the bottom, and the edit sighted; if this did not happen, it may be done manually by a reviewer.

Washington

Is this supposed to be washington state? --DannyS712 (talk) 21:47, 11 January 2020 (UTC)

Aargh. It wasn't meant to be there at all, as I'd meant to delete it during review. I think it was meant to be D.C., actually. (Thanks for catching that.) --Pi zero (talk) 21:53, 11 January 2020 (UTC)

It was meant to be Washington, D. C. - see the transcript: "We are delighted you are starting your Washington agenda here with us before you meet with the IMF and with President Trump at the White House." The AC headquarters are also in the capital - I did not think it should be sourced, as the linked WP article covers it. Leaving it out is fine with me though. - Xbspiro (talk) 22:12, 11 January 2020 (UTC)

I somehow missed the reference in the transcript; well, that's why I habitually say I "didn't find" things in the sources, rather than saying they weren't there. That would have sufficed, yes. I'm inclined not to wrestle with fixing it; it'd be fine to have, but as you note, it's also fine without. (I did notice that the Wikipedia article said their headquarters are in D.C.; that wouldn't have to mean the meeting was at their headquarters. Reminder: Wikipedia is not a source, in the verification sense; we (mainly, writers rather than reviewers) can use it as a place to find sources, if it cites a source that's trust-worthy, accessible over the internet, and really contains the information.) --Pi zero (talk) 00:03, 12 January 2020 (UTC)

I will try to link (primary source) event invitations in the future, if any, on the collaboration page to clarify the time and place. Here it is, albeit a little late, for the talk in question. - Xbspiro (talk) 11:14, 12 January 2020 (UTC)