Talk:Bernie Sanders embraces Black Lives Matter movement

Review of revision 3874925 [Not ready]

Revision 3874925 of this article has been reviewed by Pi zero (talk · contribs) and found not ready at 11:55, 6 October 2015 (UTC). Copyright: Not reviewed. Please address other issues. Newsworthiness: Not reviewed. Please address other issues. Verifiability: Not reviewed. Please address other issues. NPOV: Not ready: See below. Style: Not reviewed. Please address other issues. Comments by reviewer: We don't have the luxury of endorsing (nor of denouncing) things. The movement clearly needs to be explained for general international readership; but the phrasing in the lede is clearly taking sides. Any time someone's endorsement of a social activism movement is described as "X has spoken out in defence of Y's fight for Z in the face of W", the description is portraying the situation as good-guys-versus-bad-guys and needs a rewrite; regardless of the values of X Y Z and W. The lede doesn't answer question "when"; see the advice about "when" at WN:five Ws and H. I'm uncomfortable with the oversimplifying blanket statement seemingly ascribed to Bernie Sanders by the current headline; from the sources, I see Bernie Sanders was more careful. Stepping down to a lesser, stylistic point: America is a supercontinent; avoid using "America" when writing in Wikinews's voice about the US. Questions about the above? Ask. If possible, please address the above issues then resubmit the article for another review (by replacing {{tasks}} in the article with {{review}}). This talk page will be updated with subsequent reviews.

Revision 3874925 of this article has been reviewed by Pi zero (talk · contribs) and found not ready at 11:55, 6 October 2015 (UTC). Copyright: Not reviewed. Please address other issues. Newsworthiness: Not reviewed. Please address other issues. Verifiability: Not reviewed. Please address other issues. NPOV: Not ready: See below. Style: Not reviewed. Please address other issues. Comments by reviewer: We don't have the luxury of endorsing (nor of denouncing) things. The movement clearly needs to be explained for general international readership; but the phrasing in the lede is clearly taking sides. Any time someone's endorsement of a social activism movement is described as "X has spoken out in defence of Y's fight for Z in the face of W", the description is portraying the situation as good-guys-versus-bad-guys and needs a rewrite; regardless of the values of X Y Z and W. The lede doesn't answer question "when"; see the advice about "when" at WN:five Ws and H. I'm uncomfortable with the oversimplifying blanket statement seemingly ascribed to Bernie Sanders by the current headline; from the sources, I see Bernie Sanders was more careful. Stepping down to a lesser, stylistic point: America is a supercontinent; avoid using "America" when writing in Wikinews's voice about the US. Questions about the above? Ask. If possible, please address the above issues then resubmit the article for another review (by replacing {{tasks}} in the article with {{review}}). This talk page will be updated with subsequent reviews.

Review of revision 3881499 [Passed]

Revision 3881499 of this article has been reviewed by Pi zero (talk · contribs) and has passed its review at 18:49, 8 October 2015 (UTC). Copyright: Passed Newsworthiness: Passed Verifiability: Passed NPOV: Passed Style: Passed Comments by reviewer: Struggled a bit because the two recent sources don't actually have any overlap; they describe two separate cases where he addressed the issue, each of the two an exclusive for a different magazine. Given the dates involved, probably the New Yorker article was unveiled on Monday, and probably the Sanders campaign arranged to have those two things come out on the same day. In any case, the way to make it work as a multi-sourced Wikinews synthesis article is to present the two things as a single focus with those two aspects to it. So I tweaked wording here and there to present it that way. I had some verification problems. Various stuff here wasn't in the sources at all as best I could tell; be careful about that. The description of the movement gaining traction after Ferguson I chose to allow by treating it as common knowledge, but it really should have been sourced. Identifying the rally as on the anniversary of his death (which afaics it wasn't precisely anyway) felt beyond the pale and I didn't see it remarked on in the source anyway. Always give credit to the sources of exclusives; if we got a bit exclusive from an interview, we'd certainly want others to do as much for us. I'd still rather have less use of "American" here; but since some of that is in direct quotes and can't be eliminated anyway, it may be a lesser evil than trying to choose another term than the already-used "African-American". The reviewed revision should automatically have been edited by removing {{Review}} and adding {{Publish}} at the bottom, and the edit sighted; if this did not happen, it may be done manually by a reviewer.

Revision 3881499 of this article has been reviewed by Pi zero (talk · contribs) and has passed its review at 18:49, 8 October 2015 (UTC). Copyright: Passed Newsworthiness: Passed Verifiability: Passed NPOV: Passed Style: Passed Comments by reviewer: Struggled a bit because the two recent sources don't actually have any overlap; they describe two separate cases where he addressed the issue, each of the two an exclusive for a different magazine. Given the dates involved, probably the New Yorker article was unveiled on Monday, and probably the Sanders campaign arranged to have those two things come out on the same day. In any case, the way to make it work as a multi-sourced Wikinews synthesis article is to present the two things as a single focus with those two aspects to it. So I tweaked wording here and there to present it that way. I had some verification problems. Various stuff here wasn't in the sources at all as best I could tell; be careful about that. The description of the movement gaining traction after Ferguson I chose to allow by treating it as common knowledge, but it really should have been sourced. Identifying the rally as on the anniversary of his death (which afaics it wasn't precisely anyway) felt beyond the pale and I didn't see it remarked on in the source anyway. Always give credit to the sources of exclusives; if we got a bit exclusive from an interview, we'd certainly want others to do as much for us. I'd still rather have less use of "American" here; but since some of that is in direct quotes and can't be eliminated anyway, it may be a lesser evil than trying to choose another term than the already-used "African-American". The reviewed revision should automatically have been edited by removing {{Review}} and adding {{Publish}} at the bottom, and the edit sighted; if this did not happen, it may be done manually by a reviewer.